people are cloning their dogs now and idk how to feel

i don't know . . . would you pay $50,000 to clone your dying dog?

i looked at the website myself, and it is indeed super,, impersonal. it feels like they just want to capitalize on grief. i genuinely considered "cloning" my cat, but it wouldn't be the same as having my old cat. besides, i am NOT paying $35,000 for my cat's "identical twin" (even if it is in two payments)

I guess for me, I can understand it to a point. I have a service dog right now that was born with the perfect temperament for service work and an amazing personality, perfect for my life. I fear every day that my next prospect will not reach my standards that I’ve had for my current service dog, and with my life, if I do get a prospect that does fail out of service work, I’ll have to rehome them which is very sad for both me and the dog. So maybe cloning my current SD would be a better idea, knowing that then I’ll be able to have a dog that will for-sure work, instead of rolling the dice and possibly traumatizing a dog by having to rehome them.

the fact people do this kinda shows how much they don't care about how the dogs actually have personalities and wants and desires and just want a cute looking dog that looks the same like imagine if we did this too humans like cloned your child if they died people would be mortified because we actually see fellow humans as like things were there personalities actually matter

Which channel is his main channel I AM CONFUSED

Adopt from shelters please

This is some dystopian crap that I do not have the energy to deal with ever.

Damn if this doesn’t sound close to eugenics.

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Imagine if they did this to humans every one would be quaking lol

I’m gonna be honest when the video said buddy and 12 years old o started bawling crying my dogs name was Buddy and he was 12 when he passed away just last month...

Dont nobody want a third rate used dog. Thats for brokeass mfs (no disrepect to the brokeass mfs out there.)

go to animal shelters... they have tons of kitties and doggies

My family has the money to do this but we know that adopting is better as it helps out abandoned animals and gives them a better life that can hopefully match our dead pet's lovely life.

It's funny that they are cloning a breed of dog that looks already almost identical to every other dog that is the same breed. Like seriously? All golden retrievers pretty much look the darn same. Makes no sense.

Its not even the same dog they wont have the same memories and probably act differently. Theres no point in cloning unless you wanted to keep the dogs genetics alive. But it really is like a twin

I love my precious dog around the world and back but I just believe it’s unethical to “clone” a living creature from one that had died. Therefore, no, I wouldn’t clone my dog even if it sounded nice.

I wouldn’t clone a dog unless the dog saved my life or something similar

as someone who has lost beloved people and animals, the pain of losing someone and learning to let go is an important part of life. viagen is preying on people at an extremely emotional time, offering them a false sense of connection to their late pets. it’s like those spirit mediums, all fake, that pretend to commune with spirits of deceased loved ones. from a biological standpoint, though, there’s another problem: DNA erodes the more you copy it because replication is an imperfect process. that’s basically why living bodies deteriorate and die as they grow older. the imperfections in DNA copies of new cells causes tissues and thus organs to deteriorate. when you clone a living being, you are copying an already incomplete version of their DNA so it speeds up the process and clones die even faster. this is a very simplified explanation of the process but basically if you want to know more look up “telomeres” and that should get you started.

they are taking advantage of the bargaining stage of death that is a total dick move to exploit grieving people for cash

Imma just say it Viagen sounds like a company from the fallout universe

Things you could get if you don’t use that money to clone your dog: - A therapist

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The cloning bit is not the issue I think. The false advertisement is that you get the same dog. You are not. A dog like any being is formed by their experiences. If you had your dog for example during your childhood when you had all the time in the world to play with them they will have a bond with you that the this new Bud II will not. This might create a false expectation for people and lead to serious issues down the line. I understand it more for the woman who used her dog for money anyway by going to competitions. She wanted a "perfect" breed and that makes sense. It is horrible. But it can work.

Omg I'm so dumb I thought the title said "Choking their dogs" and I was about to lose my shit

I remember I read a book about a girl who went to visit her Aunt and after a while there found out she was a clone. When she found that out she was broken, thinking that the only reason you exist is to replace someone. It gave her an identity crisis. Imagine if dogs could comprehend that and then they figure that out.

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No I wouldn't, because even if he would be similar, he would not be the same dog you know, "just" a clone.

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Clones have a shorter life span so this is even crueler

I just cant help but think knowing ur dog suffered through cancer so you clone them and pretty much watch it happen all over again...... Not to mention how cloning works- it's not a shiny new baby puppy. It may be a baby but it literally has the cells of an old dog. There is a reason why cloning is illegal

imagine going into debt bc u payed to clone ur dog-

Ok I though about it after my last comment, and cloning would actually serve a purpose for really mixed breed dogs. Like mine are so beautiful and perfect and they probably have several different breeds in them. That kinda genetic diversity makes for healthier dog. But thing is, I dunno if I'd ever find dogs like mine again. They're a unique, random breed. That being said, I don't think I'd clone them because I do feel like they're people and it would be weird. There's tons of beautiful mix breeds, I don't need exact clones. But some people might feel differently, and at the end of the day so few people could afford to be doing this I don't think it'd hurt adoption prospects for rescue animals. So it's kinda a victimless crime with potential utility to some folks. EDIT: wait it's not a victimless crime if you count the surrogate dog that has to carry the puppies... Like what kinds life do those doggos lead? It's kinda messed up. A dog can't consent to carrying puppies for a human... So it just feels wrong. Maybe if these dogs like... Give birth once and then go on to live a beautiful life with a loving family then fine... Not so bad. But I'm just picturing these dogs being used to have litter after litter and getting so messed up from it... Eugh, do, so not like that image.

My doggos were rescues that I chose specifically because they seemed the most damaged and like they needed a safe place the most. Part of the powerful bond between me and my dog was earning her trust as a puppy when she was so terrified of the world. I could clone her, but the new puppy wouldn't be anything like her. Experiences make the animal, same way they make the person. So cloning your dog seems kinda pointless to me. I mean, I guess my dogs are pavement specials so it'd be cool to be able to replicate their exact mix considering I have no idea what's in them, but like... These guys do get that it's not the same dog right?

lets make the 501st out of clone doggos

TL;DR I enjoy this channel very much and have been binging for a few days since I discovered it. But please stick to the internet drama if you don't know what you're talking about and are at risk of spreading fearmongering over science and typical business practice. The amount of ignorance on science and business in this video is cringeworthy. Prices for any type of technology begins high, because there is an initial investment on developing the product. In the case of cloning, that means years of scientific experimentation before the actual cloning even worked. Salaries, equipment, facilities, and whatever overhead any business takes on has to be paid for years while the product isn't even making the company money. After the product is released, the company charges larger amounts in order to get back those investments as well as continue paying all that overhead. And yeah, a piece of that may go into profits. It's a company, go figure. The more popular the product becomes, the larger of a consumer base that can pay into the company so prices can go down. Once the supply and demand reaches an equilibrium, the price that the product will likely stay around is reached. Yes, the prices are huge at first and $100k or $50k doesn't seem worth it (it's not to me), but that's why the company says in a few years it should go down due to popularity (in this very video as read by D'Angelo). Because consumer adoption of the procedure will go up so they won't have to charge those huge prices to stay afloat. The idea of cloning is not really new, either. The video treats it like such controversial thing. We've been cloning plants for years, for instance. However, people get this weird idea that with animals, it's different. For one, it's not at all extending the pet's life. The original animal dies when it dies. It's only symbolically extending the life of the pet for the owner, because it uses the same DNA to create a copy of the original. If you made a copy of a coke bottle, the copy is not the original. It's looks the same, but it may get scuffed and marked differently due to however you handle it or any other environmental factors, and the original bottle is in no way impacted by its existence. A dead pet that is cloned wouldn't be brought back to life or anything like that. It's just basically like breeding but without the sexual aspect. Clones are basically twins. So if a pet owner wants a new version of the old pet out of sentimentality, I don't see it as so weird. It's not like it's Frankenstein's monster. It's closer to breeding so I see where some animal advocates would say why not just adopt a pet that needs it more. D'Angelo did bring up that point, and I do see the ethical dilemma for those who don't believe breeding animals is good. But if someone wants a specific type of dog and doesn't find it wrong to breed them, cloning really isn't any different to breeding from an ethical standpoint. Also, gestation is a scientific term used to describe the period of carrying a child in the womb. Every mammal has this. Humans have a gestational period of 9 months. There's nothing weird or disgusting or unnatural about the word. It's lack of scientific knowledge that creates this almost phobic reaction to things like scientific words. Things like clones, GMOs, and lab-created life are way more a part of our daily life than most of us even know. I'll admit that there are still very interesting arguments for and against the cloning of animal life, but I didn't hear any in this video.

I like how they have the ability to CLONE THINGS and they are just not cloning very important people or something.

I don't know why but I just like to listen to him while watching in the mirrors what he's doing.

My rabbit died jan 26th,and the thought of having her cloned disturbs me I don't know why.

To be honest cloning is only okay if it were to preserve an extremely endangered species! Just go to a shelter bro, and get a senior, or an adult or young dog? It may be different but wanting to clone your dog can ruin your grief and can be actually unhealthy to you mentally.

Imagine cloning yourself and being pregnant with your own twin sister?

In fairness, Buddy (or the clone of you) would not have his memories and would ultimately be a different dog. Like still creepy and weird as hell to force the mother dog to do that, but also, Buddy2 isn't gonna be like tired of life yet.

i've had many dogs in my time and this is just scary, yea i loved them and got sad when they died but i moved on because i know i gave them a happy life. if it's time for your pet to go, let them go because all things must die and eventually that clone what you spent 50,000 dollars on will also die and i have to imagine that losing your pet twice hurts more than once

I feel like this is a scam, they get a baby dog that looks like your dog, but its a "clone"

A clone is anyway just genetically identical to the original, the personalities can be completely different. So D'Angelo, if someone cloned you, you wouldn't be here, just someone who looks exactly like you.

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Fun fact:clones have shorter lifespans

I love my cat immensely but I would not clone her not even for free

my mom agrees with you and so do i

I love my dog more than anything (at one point she was the only thing keeping me here and still somewhat is) but the thought of cloning her horrifies me. she wouldn't be the same, she'd just look like my dog. an imposter if you will. I wouldn't clone her, it'd feel like I'm replacing her. if anything I'd adopt a dog from a shelter, there are already so many dogs that need homes

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise?

These articles all make it seem like it's the same dog??? You're not resurrecting it!! You're literally just creating your dog's twin! Sure, there will be some similarities in personality, but it is a different dog. And you're starting out with an old dog's DNA, so the clone will essentially have "pre-aged" and will live a shorter, sicker life. Also, the surrogate mom dogs are usually abused by these companies, forced to endure pregnancy after pregnancy without break. AND, if you still want to go through this nightmare, it's $50,000 minimum. It's a no from me

Next it’s gonna be humans 😳😳😳

mr. beast's new video: "we killed this person's dog and surprised them with 100 clones of it!"

Why would u do this to your pet? They've lived a good life you just have to let them go there's so many pets that need homes but you decide to clone a dog that has already fulfilled their life.

I had a white schnauzer for 12 years and after he died I met another white schnauzer a year later and I got to pet him and it was great. Afterwords I sat in my car and cried. I wouldn't want to have a dog exactly like my old dog it just wouldn't feel right.

I heard about this in a youtube video once, and IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, (I might not because I watched it over 3 years ago) the dogs that are clones may look the same, but their personality will not be cloned. Their personality will be as if its a new dog. Because it is a new dog, it just looks the same. So in other words you should adopt.

" would you actually clone a person actually n-" Well you see..... Some people cyro preserve people and others they only preserve their head for the brain so of course I can see cloning happening definitely when you don't have a body to return to to begin with and the cloning will happen years before you actually get "revived" but the part I don't get is how will they make the clone consent to basically dying? Or do they have no rights? I mean whoever made head preservation a thing probably never thought this through You are killing a new person that you brought into the world made them live to the point transplantation can happen and just... Killed them for their body? "no" O..... Well.... It was an interesting thought to go through for my story got a tad interested there But honestly **I** wouldn't but I can see other people expecting it to happen one way or another just to have their child back or "revive" themselves it is all messed up but at the same time if you think a brain is what makes you you, then I can see the why's people can persuade themselves with And even if they come to love the clone before the age where the original kid can be brought back they know that the new kid they grew to love will leave them, so now what? Are you loving the clone more than your original child now? Do you love the original more than the clone? Why??

This is gross i mean it isnt like they r going to bring him back to Life its a diffrent dog and they are forcing female dogs to carry the clone dogs which shouldnt be leagle, they make them pregnant and then take their child away and the family who took the child will only love him as a clone

Not to mention is you ARE a breeder, cloning isn’t good for healthy genetic variation anyway.

I feel like cloning your pet is immature at BEST. So many pets need a home. Sometimes you just have to mourn and adopt another. And what about the animals that have to carry these clones to term? What are their conditions like? There is so much wrong with this to me.

Me and my dog were best friends and he was my main support in an extremely toxic household and he died a year ago. Still wouldn't bring him back though he was a spoiled brat (this is a joke I loved him very much)

It seems like a way to scam grieving families. The only thing that’s the same is the genetics and even then it won’t be exactly the same because of surrogacy. It won’t have the memories. It won’t have the same training. It will not be the same. It’s like a company is trying to sell families “A Dogs Purpose” to families, that’s the kind of thing that destroys children’s understanding of life and death. Can you imagine the emotional whiplash of the first death that actually matters being your parents and not comprehending that death is permanent because your parents kept cloning your pet cat? Not just having someone you love die, but thinking you could bring them back and having to have a stranger explain to you mommy and daddy aren’t going to come back?

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I did a whole essay on this subject and I honestly think that cloning animals is wrong.

My cat is 22yrs old and I love her so much. If had the money to clone her I definitely would because I don’t want to let her go. I did adopt a cat 5 years ago that looks like her and my family makes fun of me for it🤦‍♀️

I love my dog but...... he is fifteen and i know he has to go soon. but i would not want to clone him. i have a feeling it would come out all weird

I totally get the sentiment behind cloning, and support people doing it, but I could never. I would rather adopt and provide for a new animal One thing about cloned animals, though, is that I feel like I'd be really annoyed if there were any minor differences in personality/traits/whatever, but that wouldn't be the clones fault and wouldn't be fair to them. An animal's life experiences have effects on them just like with humans, and any missed experiences could drastically change the animal and defeat the purpose of cloning an animal

The thing about this is cloning is only remaking your body. You cannot retrieve your memories and personalities. So if we were to bring buddy back, we would only be being his body and not his personality. You cannot remake a person or pet, only their body. They will make a stranger out of you. You will have to get to know them once again. THEY ARE NOT ZOMBIES. They are just another dog that looks like your dog, but HAS A HIGH CHANCE OF ACTING DIFFERENTLY.

Just live and let die

The fact that they don't get to meet or know anything about the surrogate mother dog is really sus. Where is she kept? How is she treated? Why is this information hidden?

None of us have 50k so who cares 😂😂😂😂

When my dog passes away, sure I'm going to be sad, but I'm going to try to focus on the fact that I was able to give her a happy life. She's loved and cared for and when she passes away I'll know that no one hurt her and that she lived a full life. After a break from pets to recover I'll probably adopt another one to make sure they're also happy.

OK D'Angelo, I was not going to say it.....but here goes.......I would clone you!!!!!

This could be useful for ‘manufacturing’ (for want of a better term) guide dogs. A lot of puppies that get bred and trained for being guide dogs fail due to genetic issues that cause health concerns. If it were possible to simply clone a bunch of young dogs fresh out of training that didn’t have these genetic issues then there would be less wasted time and money on breeding and training puppies that can’t do the job and could result in more blind people given the freedom a guide dog provides. Same is true for other highly trained support animals obviously. Beyond that I don’t think it’s ok but it probably is going to be used more by horse owners as insurance for if something happens to their prize winner.

This gives me Fable II vibes... As soon as my dog died in that game and I found out the Knothole Island DLC could bring him back, I felt like I needed it.

Dang if they can clone animals make them clone all endangered species to well save them from extinction but wait y'all don't care ig

Not gonna lie, I considered this for my dog. My dog a mixed breed. I didn't get much time with her because we got her when she was already 4 years old and then by the time she was 8 I went to college and I've now been living in another state for 6 years. She's still alive, but she probably doesn't have much time, and because she's a mixed breed finding a similar dog will be extremely hard (we just decided to get a DNA test and try and find a dog similar). The website, in my opinion, does a horrible job marketing the reason "why" people would do this because they use a lot of purebreds in their promos. Purebreds tend to have similar personalities and are a lot easier to find a dog who looks identical to the first dog. In my case, my dog probably had years of breed mixing to come out with my dog. On the other hand, it seemed wrong to me to want a procedure for that. But on the other-other hand: how is this any different from surrogacy if the original donors were passed on? It's a really complex conversation in my opinion and it doesn't get talked about because it's so expensive.

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Dog breeders are the scum of the earth, theyll fuck up dog genes as a cash grab

Its not even the same dog.... i heard the process is very abusive... poor dogs and cats in shelters should be those who are adopted.

thats literally animal abuse

No I would NEVER clone my dog. This feels like they're treating their dog, like "items" or "robots" that can be replaced easily. And I think even if they cloned them, dog 2 will never be dog 1, even if it's the same dna or whatever. Dog 2 will grow up differently and maybe develop a different personality with new memories. (Now I don't know if by preserving the genes or dna, also means preserving the memories of the previous one). And it's just weird to call your pets, a friend, a companion with the same name but with a "2". Like the man said, leave buddy alone. It's more useful and meaningful if you just adopt a new one, like there's more dogs in need.

I miss my girl more than anything that I had to let go due to cancer. It is painful and you never forget it, but I don't think I'd be comfortable with another dog exactly like her that isn't really her. That's the thing. Genetically the dog may look like your dog, but it does not guarantee that the clone will act exactly like your dog and have the same life span. Not the me thing the fact that if your dog dies of anything but old age, the clone would most likely end up with the same illness.

I lost my dear Piper a year ago, she was a beautiful cocker spaniel with the sweetest personality, however the idea of cloning her would be absurd. would the dog look similar? yes. would the dog BE similar? no. instead I've learnt to move on and be glad she had a good life albeit short. when I get another dog I'll be happy knowing its a different dog and not me trying to replace the one I lost

The thing is the cloned dog isn’t going to be a “identical twin” it’s just the original dogs child. For 50,000 dollars. Just go to the pound.

It sounds cool but, why would anyone want to do that.

Would not clone a dog. Morality aside, I think learning to let go and accept that certain events are outside of our control is an important part of being a human being. Moreover, inability to let go in this context is inflicting your needs upon an animal who is not, in fact, your beloved pet. It just looks like him, or acts like him, but it isn't him, and spotting those differences will either lead you to reset your cloned pet for not being the original, or it will cause you to forget the original as memories of the clone become mixed up with memories of the original.

I was once seeing this girl who said the reason she would not neuter her dog was because her dad said if she didn't he would pay to clone her dog and she wanted to write about the experience for money

Reminds me of the 6th day movie

The thing is, it IS like an identical. Twin, but are identical twins the same? No. In the end cloning dogs is just a waste of recourses, getting a similar breed would technically be the exact same

isn't that just like an identical twin, tho. it ain't the same dog.

idk why but it feel off that they dont even know the mom, like dogs grieve and shit when they have their kid taken away, i know bc my parents bred a few dogs idk something feels off

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suggestion for that company: clone endangered species

No, i wouldnt clone a pet. But we did buy our beloved horses last foal, because she looked like her and actd like her, and was hers, and they said that if they sell her , its us who buy her, no one else.

But like, it wouldn’t be the same animal, it wouldn’t have any memories, what’s the point

So my Dog is a Rescue and i got her when she was already sterilized. I love her with all my Heart and it’ll be so sad once she has to go. I don’t think we should breed Dogs but i have thought about how cute her Babies would have been. So i can understand, maybe cloning a steril Pet so it can have “children”. And i mean the Clone as the Offspring not that Clone as a Pet 2.0 and then it can have Kids. Honestly to see the Clone as a second Version ist disgusting to me. Life is so much more than just DNA ans just replacing my Pet feels so disrespectful.

You could talk about designer babies?